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"You know, Joe [Santiago] and David [Lovering] and Charles [Thompson, aka Black Francis, aka Frank Black], although each and every one of them is a really cool, interesting, funny person, they're guys," Kelley says of the three Pixies not named Deal. "And, I don't know if you know this, but guys aren't good at going shopping, having coffee and talking. Especially those three guys. There are some [guys] that have more female in them than others. Those three have no female in them at all, so my role on that [tour]...honestly, I was a companion. That was my 'job.' You know, just hanging out, being a sister."
But with the Breeders—Kim's band since its 1988 inception; Kelley joined after the recording of 1990's Pod—her responsibilities become a little more defined.
"If Kim is the quarterback," Kelley says, taking a dip into the pool of Midwestern sports analogies, "I'm the center and the coach. Can I be both?"
Absolutely.
Such is the honest, open and unabashed charm of the Deal sisters.
And the job of the offensive lineman is a noble one, the human equivalent of a well-trained watchdog. Faceguarded in relative anonymity, those hefty protectors of the so-called skill positions are loyal to a fault. Underappreciated and underrated all the while.
Evidently, this strikes a nerve. Because, suddenly, caretaker Kelley changes her mind.
"One of the other guys [ostensibly either Breeders drummer Jose Medeles or bassist Mando Lopez] can have that then," she says. "I don't want to be underrated."
Perhaps because they are sisters, ever-present for one another, the two need to be each other's rocks—not on the rock 'n' roll road but, more likely, in the Deals' hometown of Dayton, Ohio.
"There is a symbiotic relationship," Kelley says of her interdependence with Kim, "where I take care of her, she takes care of me, I take care of her, she takes care of me. It depends, on that day, who needs taking care of.
"When I was doing the Kelley Deal 6000," she says of her 1996, post-rehab band, "I had just gotten sober, so it was a pretty precarious feeling. And this girl came up to me and she had a couple bags of heroin—powder heroin—in her hand, and she started to give it to me and I just turned away and fled. But you know what? I wasn't tempted. It kind of freaked me out, but at no point was I ever tempted to take it.
"However, let me tell you, when I go to what I like to call 'civilians' homes,' and I go to their bathroom and I open their medicine cabinet—because that's what I do—and I see Vicodin there, I tell you, over the years I have popped in there and I have taken Vicodin out of people's medicine chests," Kelley continues. "And I find that is more of a slippery slope. In my parents' house, in my brother's house, in my friend's house, in this stranger-that-I-don't-know's house. I find that way more precarious than being handed a bag of smack at a concert.
"Isn't that strange? Because somehow it's not real. It's medicine. So if I were going to relapse, it's not going to be on heroin on the road, it's going to be in your medicine cabinet."
Kelley pauses, either to let the effect of her words hit or to allow them to boomerang back onto herself. But then she laughs.
"That's so depressing," she says, between chuckles. "When I talk about shit like that, it's like, 'What is wrong with me?'"